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|February 9, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Hormones and Blyton's Books
I don't know about bras or beards, but I enjoy the developing friendship and romance between David and Petronella (Peter) in Malcolm Saville's 'Lone Pine Club' adventures. Unlike the Kirrins, they weren't all related, so such developments were possible. The time line was absurd really, as they all aged but more or less in the same time era. Not that that mattered to the reader. —Nigel
|February 6, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Hormones and Blyton's Books
Blyton's teenagers are often criticized by the media for seemingly never reaching puberty - JK Rowling also remarked about this with regard to Julian Kirrin - but I doubt Enid's target audience wanted to be reminded of that first bra or (if male) facial hair. —Paul
|Daisy says: It's all about reading a good book such matters don't come into it as far as I'm concerned. I just want to read a good story!!|
|January 28, 2018: Adventure Series - What happened to Jack, Philip, Dinah and Lucy-Ann?
I thought I might bring this discussion back to life since I have my own particular ideas of what became of the four adventurers. (I wrote fanfic about it, so my ideas are rather detailed, at least in regards to their early adulthood. ) Let‘s start with Jack: I do agree with those who said he became a photographer - I think he did make a living by publishing his (mostly birds) pictures, and maybe after a while he began writing for nature magazines as well. He traveled a lot too! I don't see him becoming a scientist, though, for I always imagined him being rather bad at school (EB mentions it at her introduction of his character, saying, "he is clever but he just doesn't bother" through Lucy-Ann. ) Actually in my book he dropped out of school after coming of age (during his last year) because a journalist offered him to participate in a project for a magazine (he got more than an earful for this from Aunt Allie and they had a long argument going after that!) As for Philip: I do agree that with those who think he became a vet. After university he moved back to the town where his mother lived with Bill and became the assistant of a local vet who ran veterinary clinic. Later when his boss became too old Philip bought the clinic from him. He could have taken a more fancy job (such as moving to the wilderness or work in a famous zoo) but I thought he was always very considerate towards and also worried about his mother so he chose to stay close to her (despite her having Bill now). As for Dinah: I think she was ahead of her time regarding women's ambitions; she became a medical doctor. She also chose to live in her home town and be close to her family and she worked in a local hospital. As for Lucy-Ann: I don't think she was as ambitious as Dinah was but she worked too, as a nanny for very small children, maybe in a kindergarten (if this kind of thing existed in her times) or in the household of a wealthy family with several kids! As for their love lives: I agree with those who think that they would have ended up with each other, although it took them a few years to realise that it was what they wanted. I think that Jack had very few dates (if any at all) during his early twenties, since he was busy with traveling. But on his trips I‘m sure he had some short-lived romantic adventure or other! He always harbored a lot of secret admiration for Dinah but never acted on it, thinking it unfair because he was spending so much time out of the country. They did end up with each other later though, but their way to love was a bumpy one. Dinah, I imagine, was a bit lonely before that because she wasn't the kind of woman the men chased after - too fierce, too prickly, too self-confident. She and Jack never married or had kids and they carried on through life being together on and off. Meanwhile Philip and Lucy-Ann had a, let's say, more regular relationship although they didn't get together until their mid-twenties either. Lucy-Ann was a lot more popular with men than Dinah, being smaller, more timid and affectionate. She was on many dates but never warmed up to any of the men taking her out. Philip had a few short-lived relationships with young women too, most of whom had no ambitions of their own other than getting married. After the two of them realised their love for each other, they remained almost inseparable for the rest of their lives. They married when they found out that Lucy-Ann was pregnant about a year after they got together (before the child was born!), and I think they had two or three kids and next to being a wonderful mother Lucy-Ann helped Philip run his vet clinic when their children were older. —Nina
|January 25, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
I'd love to see a Famous Five spin-off, where the five, now retired, return to Kirrin and solve one last mystery. —Adam
|January 25, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Why update books?
This is quite an old thread, however, I do agree that the updates to the Blyton books are getting ridiculous. Plans to change the words "mother and father" to "mum and dad" (this only one example), in my opinion, is political correctness taken to the next level. I myself now only purchase second-hand copies of Blyton's books now, fortunately, I have a fantastic second-hand bookshop near me. —Adam
|Daisy says: I agree with you about some of the text changes, Adam.|
|January 25, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Best books
Hi everybody, As a big fan of Blyton's "Mystery" series and the Famous Five, I've always wondered what other people's favourite Byton series are! Please share them with me! Certainly, the "Mystery" series appeals to me as I love the setting, and as I grew up in the City, life in a quaint old village has always got my imagination running - I've spent hours on end writing up my own mystery stories, though not nearly as good as old Blyton! Not to mention the thrill when I was younger in reading about other kids solving mysteries and adventures! Regards, Adam. —Adam
|January 17, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
Yeah, but it's still a bit hard to imagine Bessie still climbing the Faraway Tree when she's in Year 12/sixth form. And, one can only dread the places a teenage Molly would want to go in the Wishing Chair. —Paul
|January 16, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
Paul, you are *never* too old for magic. —Nigel
|January 11, 2018: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
How about a story focusing on Bessie, Molly etc after they are too old for magic? —Paul
|January 8, 2018: Famous Five - Whatever Happened to the Famous Five?
I don't think Julian will marry Berta because as far as I'm concerned, Julian and Berta have had no chemistry. I know it's pretty disgusting that some think that Julian and George will get married, but it's quite true actually. I'm sure George admires Julian because she looks up to him, and listens to him whenever he tells her to calm down. I think Dick will marry Jo because in 'Five Have Plenty Of Fun', the writer says that Dick loved Jo (I don't know whether she meant as friends or as love, but I'm sure she's giving us a hint about the future). As for Anne, I'm sure she will marry Richard Kent from 'Five Get Into Trouble because there was definitely some chemistry there! —TabbyCat_99
|January 6, 2018: Famous Five - Anne - Sensible or Stupid?
I'd say it's sexism, Daisy. Anne is seen as boring and stupid because she likes feminine things. Sadly a lot of girls go through that "I'm not like the other girls, I don't like pink". It's not until they are older that they realise that they can wear all the dresses they want and still solve the mysteries and defeat the criminals. —Paul
|January 4, 2018: Famous Five - George's feelings
First off, I would like to thank the owner of this forum for keeping this time capsule open and running, and flowing with such lively discussions! I have come across this forum in happenstance, but I am grateful I did! Second, I would like to thank "Scampigirl" for her courageous and insightful post back in 2009. Throwing interesting literary curveballs for thought and discussion at a time when these subjects of sexuality, gender, identity, and the different kinds of love were still not accepted or understood as they are now increasingly in our Western society. And finally, thanks to "Beth" for catapulting this discussion smack bang in the open, progressive, and thoughtful era we are fortunate enough to live in currently. I have read this chain from 2006/7 when it first started to the last post in 2017, and it's been *fascinating* to witness evolution of the conversation - in terms of language, definition, vocabulary, and tone - for the better. I am not an expert in Enid Blyton by any means, but her books always brought me joy aplenty. I hold perhaps a controversial view in that I think children are innately more sexually (applying the term here in its widest of definitions) "aware" than we as adults are keen to give them credit. I know I certainly was, even though I happily lacked the knowledge or awareness of what "attraction" or "feelings" really were (including - and importantly - what these meant in relation to my own identity), and these became more apparent naturally as I grew through puberty. As a disclaimer: I am in NO way saying that we should "adultise" our children, I am merely making the additional point that talking about George's potential sexuality or gender identification can also be separated and spoken about distinctly from "love" or her (their?) desire. These are not mutually conjoined subjects, although related. Regardless, thank you to all the contributors! It has been a heartwarming read to see how far we as a society have moved forward in accepting discussion and dialogue through the past decade! Many blessings for this happy new year! —Bea
|Fatty says: Thank you, Bea, for a most interesting post. I can certainly agree with you regarding children's awareness - I fell in love with a girl in my class when I was 10. I had no idea why I had these feelings towards her. I sent her a Valentine's card and she said her father told her to keep it forever as it was her first. I wonder if she did. Thanks for your kind comments about this website. We all wish you and everyone a happy new year.|
|January 1, 2018: Secret Seven - Did the Seven Have a TV Show?
Curious to know, but the 1976 editions from Knight have front covers that depict real people, as though it were a TV show (aka the Famous Fives 70s covers). But can't seem to get information on this. Any idea? Was it just staged pics? Thanks! —Darren
|Daisy says: As far as I know I don't think there was a Seven series like the Famous Five TV series, Darren. So maybe the front covers were staged. You could always put your question to our sister site. Enid Blyton Society|
|December 31, 2017: Famous Five - Anne - Sensible or Stupid?
I don't know why Anne is regarded as "wet" by some for being shy and liking things like dresses and perfume and flowers. —Paul
|Daisy says: I didn't know that some referred to her in that way!|
|December 29, 2017: Malory Towers - Is there really a boarding school on the Cornwall coast?
I love this book. —Lucy
|December 24, 2017: Famous Five - Five Are Together Again
Sorry if this has already come up but why in this last book is The Kirrins cook called 'Joan' and not 'Joanne'?? It really bugs me, sad eh?! —Carole
|Daisy says: Joan was mentioned quite a number of times in many of the books. They shortened her name, that's all.|
|December 1, 2017: Faraway Tree - Concept Similarities
Do you think the concept of the lands at the top of the Faraway Tree is very like Rod Serling's The Twilight Zone? —Paul
|November 17, 2017: Famous Five - Why do the Five change their name to Barnard from Kirrin?
I always wondered what Julian, Dick and Annes' surname was? I remember in Five Get Into A Fix that their mother was referred to as Mrs Barnard. But I am sure they were all introduced as Kirrins in another book. Any thoughts? —David
|Daisy says: You are right, about their surname being mentioned as Barnard, but I think they were intended as Kirrins. This discussion has come up many times especially on the Enid Blyton Society forums
Fatty says: We have moved this topic to the relevant thread, as it has been discussed here.
|November 12, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
In the old Blyton Live Journal community, someone said they could see June be very good as a criminal or black marketeer. I might write that story one day. —Paul
|November 6, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
Sorry, there was a mistake in the previous text. The correct one is: Jo Falls into Adventure. 'Five Fall into Adventure' told in first person by Jo. Regards felix. —Felix
|Buster says: Apologies, I'm still getting used to typing with my paws.|
|November 6, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
Jo from Fall into Adventure. 'Five Fall into Adventure' told in first person by Jo. —Felix
|Buster says: I guess it would be something different, but unlikely to happen.|
|November 3, 2017: Malory Towers - Is there really a boarding school on the Cornwall coast?
A great fan of Enid Blyton and her books, check out the link- [link removed] It proved jolly useful for me, and maybe for you too. —Samridhi
|Fatty says: These are illegal downloads. The site says that these books are in the public domain. Books are not in the public domain until 70 years after the author's death. In Enid's case, this won't be until 2038. The website owners should know this. Illegal downloading is theft. Please ensure that you post in the correct thread, as this has nothing to do with the location of Malory Towers.|
|November 3, 2017: Malory Towers - How do you rate Malory Towers?
Hi, I am Samridhi. I am twelve and I have read the whole Malory Towers series, beginning to end, including the ones by Pamela Cox too. And my, like Felicity and her form got very solemn and sad in the end, I too got very solemn and sad indeed. I know there's no school like Malory Towers in reality, but how I wish there was. This is my favorite series ever, and is there any film or TV series on Malory Towers? Well, I wanted to ask that as Pamela continues the series for Felicity, can't someone continue it for Daffy, with someone from Darell's family and one from Alicia's? Well, I am trying my best to continue it myself!! —Samridhi
|Fatty says: Good luck! I have moved your post to a more appropriate thread.|
|November 3, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
I don't think it's a case of being "un-PC", Avan, it's just an out-of-date term. A bit like referring to a home-help as a char lady. Housemaids, kitchenmaids, scullerymaids were often very young, and were maids - the old term for young single girls. —Nigel
|October 27, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
I also did not know that it is un PC to say maid for a home helper these days till I read the above post. Glad to learn this and will bear it in mind. . All persons do not have the same capabilities and each one has his own special ability which is deserving of appreciation and none should be considered superior or inferior. —Avan N. Cooverji